Yeah, the morality play style of dealing with social issues that Doctor Who tends to engage in never does much for me one way or the other? I prefer the kind of messy realism you get with something like Battlestar Galactica. So I can see what people think this episode is saying and why they find it so angering, but . . . I just don't care? And frankly, if it had gotten its messaging right I wouldn't have cared either. It's not what I watch Doctor Who for.
I agree. It's why Doctor Who, Star Trek, Twilight Zone and a lot of the episodic style sci-fi series don't quite work or appeal to me for lengthy periods of time. It's also my difficulty with a lot of speculative science fiction.
I think it depends on what your focus in on?
For me, it's characters, the relationships between them, the plot (how they solve the problem), and then, the theme or message. I don't really want to be preached too, I can go to church for that -- and well lately have been avoiding it.
My difficulty with moralistic fiction is often the characters and plot get lost playing to the demands of the theme. Also, there's a tendency to be a bit "neat" or black and white with the moral messages. I much prefer series like Battlestar Galatica which pursues the gray areas of the moral landscape, depicting how it morality is shifting thing, not stagnate and often depending on various other mitigating factors.
I like Doctor Who, but I don't take it that seriously. And so far this season about four episodes were enjoyable.
My problems with this episode weren't thematic in nature. I just had difficulties with the plot structure and felt there wasn't enough focus on the characters. I liked last week's a bit better in that regard.
Frequently true. I read enough to get what people are on about, but yeah . . . not sure I'll find it fruitful to dwell on. But I've not been deeply engaged with this season as it is.
Agreed. At the end of the day, it's subjective. I can't say I'm that engaged with Who either...but then I haven't been engaged since Doctor Song was killed off. I'm trying to like Jodi Whittaker's Who, but...wildly ambivalent.
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I agree. It's why Doctor Who, Star Trek, Twilight Zone and a lot of the episodic style sci-fi series don't quite work or appeal to me for lengthy periods of time. It's also my difficulty with a lot of speculative science fiction.
I think it depends on what your focus in on?
For me, it's characters, the relationships between them, the plot (how they solve the problem), and then, the theme or message. I don't really want to be preached too, I can go to church for that -- and well lately have been avoiding it.
My difficulty with moralistic fiction is often the characters and plot get lost playing to the demands of the theme. Also, there's a tendency to be a bit "neat" or black and white with the moral messages. I much prefer series like Battlestar Galatica which pursues the gray areas of the moral landscape, depicting how it morality is shifting thing, not stagnate and often depending on various other mitigating factors.
I like Doctor Who, but I don't take it that seriously. And so far this season about four episodes were enjoyable.
My problems with this episode weren't thematic in nature. I just had difficulties with the plot structure and felt there wasn't enough focus on the characters. I liked last week's a bit better in that regard.
Frequently true. I read enough to get what people are on about, but yeah . . . not sure I'll find it fruitful to dwell on. But I've not been deeply engaged with this season as it is.
Agreed. At the end of the day, it's subjective. I can't say I'm that engaged with Who either...but then I haven't been engaged since Doctor Song was killed off. I'm trying to like Jodi Whittaker's Who, but...wildly ambivalent.