Sometimes I think about Doctor Who

[promethia_tenk]

Randomly woke up at 3am and realized something:



If the Clara in the Library with Ten died to save him, she would have been scooped up by CAL.

Which means there's a very good chance that there's been a Clara hanging out in the Library computer with River all this time.

I can't believe it's taken me five years to think of that.

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[elisi]

...

Damn.

Now there needs to be fic. Clara & River (or Clara/River), BFFs in the Library.

ETA: Unless she died through the adventures, and was returned to her body during the download??? *ponders*

[maia]

I like that!

[promethia_tenk]

Right?!?!

It's not just me. How did nobody think of this?

ETA: Unless she died through the adventures, and was returned to her body during the download??? *ponders*
I'm not following?

[promethia_tenk]

Me toooooo.

[elisi]

No wait, my brain hasn't woken up, ignore that second bit.

[promethia_tenk]

Oh, you mean like Lee and the others. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. But I like my version better : )

Also makes NotD and the Library quite the circular tragedy, with River pleading with Clara not to do the thing that is the whole reason she knows her to begin with.

[elisi]

Oh, you mean like Lee and the others. Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
But I realised that if she died (rather than just saving him) she wouldn't have a body to return to - all the others were uploaded whilst still alive.

Also makes NotD and the Library quite the circular tragedy, with River pleading with Clara not to do the thing that is the whole reason she knows her to begin with.
Now my head hurts.

[promethia_tenk]

But I realised that if she died (rather than just saving him) she wouldn't have a body to return to - all the others were uploaded whilst still alive.
Yeah, I had a few minutes where I had to sit and think through the mechanics of all of it. Like, why were Anita and the others stuck in the Data core when Lee was saved . . . ? Duh. It's been awhile. But then, does this mean the Doctor never needed to upload River? Would CAL have gotten her anyway? But I guess he couldn't have know that. And it lacks the personal touch.

Now my head hurts.
Just trying to wake you up. But I told you River cared too much about Clara in that episode!

[elisi]

Like, why were Anita and the others stuck in the Data core when Lee was saved . . . ? Duh. It's been awhile. But then, does this mean the Doctor never needed to upload River? Would CAL have gotten her anyway?
I presume if it was River's brain powering the download, CAL couldn't simultaneously *upload* her. So no, we're good with the plot.

Just trying to wake you up.
It's 12.38!! But work is consuming all my thoughts at the moment. 1 1/2 days left before I finish for 3 weeks. SO MANY THINGS TO THINK ABOUT. /o\

But I told you River cared too much about Clara in that episode!
Yes, you were absolutely correct. <3

[owlboy]

IIRC for a bit people were assuming Clara's presence in the Library meant she and CAL were the same person.

[promethia_tenk]

I love fandom logic.

[nostalgia]

NO SHE'S DAVROS AND THE RANI

[purplefringe]

Omg this is VERY IMPORTANT thank you for bringing it to our attention

[promethia_tenk]

*sigh* Those were the good old days.

[promethia_tenk]

Right? I'm like, this is RELEVANT TO MY INTERESTS and surely will be to others as well.

[promethia_tenk]

I presume if it was River's brain powering the download, CAL couldn't simultaneously *upload* her. So no, we're good with the plot.
Phew. I mean, also I don't care, but I was under the impression that episode probably mostly made sense?

It's 12.38!! But work is consuming all my thoughts at the moment. 1 1/2 days left before I finish for 3 weeks. SO MANY THINGS TO THINK ABOUT. /o\
Well, you said your brain hadn't woken up yet. And I am insanely jealous of you.

Yes, you were absolutely correct. <3
Huzzah!

Actually, I think what finally settled that in my head was the Moff interview where they were telling him he doesn't kill enough companions or some other rubbish and he replied that he's never going to do that because the Doctor is everybody's space dad and you want to feel that you are safe and he will protect you. And I realized naturally the same applies to the Doctor's wife, trained killer or no.

But also because River and Clara were totally besties in a computer : )

[elisi]

Clara is EVERYONE.

And so is River.

[elisi]

Phew. I mean, also I don't care, but I was under the impression that episode probably mostly made sense?
Yes, yes it does. ♥

Well, you said your brain hadn't woken up yet.
The two are not mutually exclusive. Workbrain =/= metabrain

And I am insanely jealous of you.
America has the worst holiday allowance. :(

Huzzah!
*throws confetti*

And I realized naturally the same applies to the Doctor's wife, trained killer or no.
Excellent point.

But also because River and Clara were totally besties in a computer : )
Now I want to re-watch NotD with this in mind.