Interesting. And I'm glad to see that you like some of the resolution we've seen on screen of River's programing and that you hold out hope for future developments.
It's a little bit funny. After AGMGTW, I wasn't thrilled but I was quickly able to deal with the reveals because of my hope for future developments and intellectually working through it with fandom/fanfic, and you had to walk away from it for a little while in order to come back. To some extent, I think we might be switching spots now with LKH. You seem to be in fandom writing fic/talking about the possibilities and meta and working through it. And I just want to walk away from it. Hopefully, like you returned to it with a new understanding/appreciation, the same will occur with me.
Your meta as always is very well-thought out and is compelling, Promethia. And I agree with you, I believe that River will have multiple possible timelines, like Amy and Rory. And I believe the Doctor will too. I've rather thought this since The Impossible Astronaut for several different reasons (along with many other people too, I know). However, for the first time, I have to say, I'm really not interested in what Moffat has to say about River Song. No matter how many timelines. Because of the one he has presented. And how many times can a person die without dying and how many times can a person live without living before all the losses and decisions and events don't matter? There has to be teeth and claws. Yes, there are interesting elements to it from the POV of choice and destiny and infinite possibility. However, that's something for a movie, two hours out of my life. That's not something for all the characters in a TV show, where we devote all these hours to trying to make sense of where these characters are coming from. And then the amount of time fandom has devoted to trying to figure out River Song and who she is and what that means. We didn't want a multiple choice answer. Moffat might be having fun with that, but it seems to me that he wants to have his cake and his cookies and his chocolates and his donuts and... fishfingers AND custard. That might sound like a great idea when you're hungry (or high), but it only really leads to a belly-ache. That's why I do not hold out great hope for added timelines. More does not always make better.
Still, perhaps your meta will be true and Matt and Alex's performance of it will be alluring enough to change my mind. I look forward to reading your interpretations and opinions of the upcoming episodes and developments. Maybe it'll help me reflect on them differently. After all, sometimes I need that, I need to hear your meta (or Owlsie's or Cassiopeia's or Elisi's etc...) and then I need to think on it and then think on it some more and then maybe start to distance myself even while approaching the material again. I value your point of view on this kind of thing highly.
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It's a little bit funny. After AGMGTW, I wasn't thrilled but I was quickly able to deal with the reveals because of my hope for future developments and intellectually working through it with fandom/fanfic, and you had to walk away from it for a little while in order to come back. To some extent, I think we might be switching spots now with LKH. You seem to be in fandom writing fic/talking about the possibilities and meta and working through it. And I just want to walk away from it. Hopefully, like you returned to it with a new understanding/appreciation, the same will occur with me.
Your meta as always is very well-thought out and is compelling, Promethia. And I agree with you, I believe that River will have multiple possible timelines, like Amy and Rory. And I believe the Doctor will too. I've rather thought this since The Impossible Astronaut for several different reasons (along with many other people too, I know). However, for the first time, I have to say, I'm really not interested in what Moffat has to say about River Song. No matter how many timelines. Because of the one he has presented. And how many times can a person die without dying and how many times can a person live without living before all the losses and decisions and events don't matter? There has to be teeth and claws. Yes, there are interesting elements to it from the POV of choice and destiny and infinite possibility. However, that's something for a movie, two hours out of my life. That's not something for all the characters in a TV show, where we devote all these hours to trying to make sense of where these characters are coming from. And then the amount of time fandom has devoted to trying to figure out River Song and who she is and what that means. We didn't want a multiple choice answer. Moffat might be having fun with that, but it seems to me that he wants to have his cake and his cookies and his chocolates and his donuts and... fishfingers AND custard. That might sound like a great idea when you're hungry (or high), but it only really leads to a belly-ache. That's why I do not hold out great hope for added timelines. More does not always make better.
Still, perhaps your meta will be true and Matt and Alex's performance of it will be alluring enough to change my mind. I look forward to reading your interpretations and opinions of the upcoming episodes and developments. Maybe it'll help me reflect on them differently. After all, sometimes I need that, I need to hear your meta (or Owlsie's or Cassiopeia's or Elisi's etc...) and then I need to think on it and then think on it some more and then maybe start to distance myself even while approaching the material again. I value your point of view on this kind of thing highly.